bethlmcconnell: hi xnbomb xnbomb: id like to talk about where the events occurred bethlmcconnell: oh? xnbomb: well ... i study spatial patterns, i find patterns interesting xnbomb: i'm wonder how you sussed out the pattern in events and if we see the same pattern xnbomb: i find it interesting the event occurred in a line xnbomb: and yet now if seems your friend can go anywhere ... bethlmcconnell: yes, it was based on the date of the previous location and where the previous location took place bethlmcconnell: i forget the actual pattern, i worked it out on paper at home. xnbomb: well ... what i saw was something like a wave, bouncing back and forth across the continental usa xnbomb: and the dates seem to be related to particular days of the week in particular places ... xnbomb: im wondering why those places and those dates ... why on that line xnbomb: i gather you've been places tonight that were not that line, yes? bethlmcconnell: yes xnbomb: it strikes me that the previous pattern has some suggestion of your friends purpose bethlmcconnell: really? xnbomb: well ... the pattern was such that you could figure it out ... guess where the next event would occur ... meet him, yes? xnbomb: since he can go anywhere, why would he choose to go to those places in that regular pattern unless it was to allow you to guess where he'd go next? xnbomb: i mean ... you found him tonight ... even though he indicated he expected no further contact, and knew you could find him through the pattern ... if he didn't want you to find him again ... why show up somewhere where you'd expect him? bethlmcconnell: That was my hope exactly. xnbomb: there are plenty of unpopulated areas, national forests, and national parks that are not along that line bethlmcconnell: right. xnbomb: if he did not want you to find him he would not have gone there bethlmcconnell: true xnbomb: well ... i've been speculating about the wheres and what they mean ... I'd love to hear what you think of it xnbomb: can you ask him why he has appeared where he did? xnbomb: i do find it a little surprising that he would appear in such a regular pattern and then be suprised the you and Ms. Kinross tracked it down ... xnbomb: sorry ... him down, hard with the pronouns bethlmcconnell: I've thought about that. I think he was surprised because I don't think that he realized that he was doing anything that would get him notice. xnbomb: well ... that's where it gets interesting ... my understanding is that the paranormal events are a side effect of his appearing ... an instance of him testing his abilities? xnbomb: he didn't think anyone would notice this strange stuff .. .even if there were not many people ... there's always somebody around ... at least in the continental usa xnbomb: but i gather he doesn't understand people very well ... perhaps he's surprised people would take notice ... surprised that somebody like you or Ms. Kinross (or me) would try to find the pattern in these strange occurrences xnbomb: but the fact remains there is a pattern where and when he does this ... the question that puzzles me is why if he apparently can go anywhere xnbomb: Can you ask him, why along the line, why with those regular (at least predictable) distance intervals, why at predictable times? bethlmcconnell: that's an excellent question and I will ask him xnbomb: thanks ... can you put his answer somewhere I can see it? it would help me sleep better xnbomb: (a little theory: behind a pattern, there is often process ... understanding process can help you understand purpose!) xnbomb: about your friend getting noticed ... he is clearly aware of little-boxes ... so he must have known you were taking notice for some time xnbomb: do you suppose he rearranged the bookmarks to help you see the pattern? xnbomb: i mean, whoever did it, already saw the pattern ... unless there is someone else who knows a lot about this, Occam's Razor says he rearranged the bookmarks xnbomb: beth ... you still with me? i gather you're very busy bethlmcconnell: I am with you bethlmcconnell: sorry, I have about a million things happening at once bethlmcconnell: though it's great that so many people are willing to try and help! xnbomb: do you see my messages above about your friend must have been aware of little-boxes for some time ... perhaps he arranged the bookmarks to help you see the pattern ... if not him then somebody else knows a lot about this ... but occam's razor says that he likely rearranged the bookmarks ... what do you think? bethlmcconnell: I think that's possible bethlmcconnell: it makes as much sense as anyone bethlmcconnell: though, he found my website through my PDA bethlmcconnell: and i didn't see him until after those were rearranged. xnbomb: and he didn't have access to your PDA until you found him bethlmcconnell: I can't imagine how he could have. xnbomb: so there is a bit of a causality problem there ... although apparently he perceives time quite differently, maybe even its direction? xnbomb: thats a little hard to believe, even considering the level of general weirdness xnbomb: well ... if he didn't rearrange the bookmarks ... then someone else out there knew both about the pattern and that by rearranging them it would lead you to him ... who could that be, and why? bethlmcconnell: The only other person that I know of that was aware of the problem was the girl in GA. xnbomb: yeah ... i know a thing or two about that too ... she posts things on a website too ... not quite as useful as little-boxes, but informative ... are you curious about her ... i might be able to answer some questions for you bethlmcconnell: Well she is obviously aware of, or interested in, paranormal activity bethlmcconnell: I would love to know what drew her to little boxes, if it was her bethlmcconnell: we all like to know what draws people to our sites xnbomb: yeah ... that is interesting ... i suspect she was tracking the events, but from a different perspective xnbomb: i know that your friend doesn't like to talk about the monitors ... but you and i can talk about them xnbomb: i think ms. kinross became aware of the pattern of events because she was able to track the monitors manifestations through logging network activity xnbomb: it seems that the appearance of the monitors coincides with remarkable CPU utilization in a pattern that centers on where your friend appears and where the monitors try to follow and 'apprehend' bethlmcconnell: really? Now that is interesting. xnbomb: yep, i think so too ... this seems to be all about computers ... powerful computers and (god knows what kind of) software that can actually affect reality xnbomb: anyhow ... if the monitors invariably try to follow your friend where he goes ... you were chasing the fox ... and she was chasing the hounds xnbomb: im interested in who the fox and the hounds belong to ... i'd like to apply occam's razor again ... the line passes through redland ... maybe this has something to do with MetaCortex, yes? bethlmcconnell: Well, it could. xnbomb: i think it is more than likely ... and without asking you to divulge corporate information that would be inappropriate here ... I gather you know some people at your workplace who are working on artificial intelligences ... the corporate propaganda at least implies as much xnbomb: maybe they've got you set up in a rather unusual sort of beta test xnbomb: if that were so ... it might be a reason why someone else would have done the rearranging at little-boxes ... someone trying to get your friend and you together to futher a corporate research program ... how does that grab you? Know anyone who might do something like that? Anyone taking a special interest in your going to these events ... maybe whoever that is has a special interest too? xnbomb: beth ... this is important ... it gets at the purpose ... xnbomb: i can tell from the way you arrange little boxes and some of your announcement list emails that you try and keep work and your hobby separate ... but what I have suggested is that someone at work might be deliberately trying to make the two converge (see above for details) ... can you think of anyone who has shown a special interest in your attending the events that is also at MetaCortex? bethlmcconnell: wait, let me scroll up here. bethlmcconnell: (sorry, about 40 different chat windows right now) bethlmcconnell: AI is certainly a very hot topic around work right now bethlmcconnell: as it is in any tech company bethlmcconnell: but I've seen some of the stuff in the lab and know a couple of the guys (and girls) down there. We don't have anything that matches this technology. I didn't think that anyone did. xnbomb: putting aside the nature of the technology for the moment ... what I am postulating is that perhaps they've got you as some sort of MetaBetaTester (ha) ... can you think of anyone at work who has taken a special interest in your attending the events, someone who has gone out of their way to make sure you'd meet your friend? Anyone recently ingratiate themselves to you and insist that you go to the events? If such a person exists, it is likely they know a lot more about this than they have let on. xnbomb: i have a confession to make ... i have some inside information on this issue xnbomb: i know im a wee bit verbose and maybe even impatient, but id really like to help you think this through, because i think it'll make your life a lot easier xnbomb: well ... i know you're busy, but it's been 15 minutes since I've heard from you ... and I think I've got some important ideas for you ... so I'm trying to be patient ... but I've got other things going on too ... soo unless you'd like to suggest another time when you can read what I have to write, I guess this will have to do ... bethlmcconnell: oh, sorry bethlmcconnell: you got burried under other windows bethlmcconnell: They just keep popping up bethlmcconnell: Seriously, I can't imagine that I'm a "metabetatester" bethlmcconnell: I'm in R&D, I know what they have going on and I know that it doesn't match this. xnbomb: let me get this straight ... you've seen something that alters reality and you accept that, but you cannot fathom that there are things going on at metacortex that you don't know about? xnbomb: well ... back to the point i'm trying to make ... anyone associated with metacortex take a special interest in your attending the events? Anyone do anything for you to make sure you could go? Anyone who might have an agenda you don't know about? Anyone who might have suddenly appeared on the scene and is suddenly in the middle of everything? bethlmcconnell: Oh, I'm certain that there are things at MC that I'm unaware of bethlmcconnell: but of this scope or magnitude? bethlmcconnell: It would have to have been in development for some time bethlmcconnell: and the amount of work that it would take. bethlmcconnell: well, I would have heard rumors of it at least. xnbomb: im asking for a suspension of disbelief on the technology front proportional to the suspension of disbelief you must have understaken on the 'nature of reality' front ... but one last try: Has anyone associated with metacortex taken a special interest in your attending the events? Anyone do something for you to make sure you could go? Anyone who might have an agenda you don't know about? Anyone who might have suddenly appeared on the scene and is suddenly in the middle of everything? I'm implying someone specific ... last month you were on the MetaCortex front page, now someone else is. bethlmcconnell: Kat xnbomb: what would you say if I told you I know a thing or two about what she is up to ... would you be interested? xnbomb: i dont want to broach any subjects you find uncomfortable ... but I really think my passing some information on to you might give you more perspective on what's going on xnbomb: i'm waiting for you to indicate that you'd like me to tell you what I know about Kat and her involvement here ... if you don't want to read what I know, that's fine too ... but I think you would want to know bethlmcconnell: well, what do you know about Kat bethlmcconnell: now keep in mind that she's a good friend bethlmcconnell: so I might get defensive xnbomb: are you sure about that? bethlmcconnell: I don't know you at all xnbomb: she seems to have undermined you a little professionally bethlmcconnell: but I do know her bethlmcconnell: well that I figured xnbomb: the devil you know ... bethlmcconnell: I'm not so sure I like her professionally bethlmcconnell: and all she does is sit on the phone and write emails bethlmcconnell: I'd accuse her of wasting away the day on solitaire xnbomb: whether or not you know me doesn't make anything I write you any more or less true bethlmcconnell: but I waste it away online bethlmcconnell: that's not that much better xnbomb: i have a confession to make xnbomb: kat is very sloppy with passwords ... I've seen some things on her metadex xnbomb: they are things that appear to concern you and your friend xnbomb: they are things that certainly provide some insight into the issues I have raised xnbomb: if i tell you what I saw, you won't know whether or not they are true ... if i tell you how to see her metadex as I did, you can judge for yourself xnbomb: it is your choice ... but I believe that your career, your very life may hang in the balance ... I've gone out on a limb here because I am serious about helping you ... i know you didn't ask me to ... but I felt compelled ... my sense of what is right and what is wrong compels me to write this ... in this case, the ends do justify the means bethlmcconnell: I'm sorry, but I can't go into her metadex bethlmcconnell: that just wouldn't be right. bethlmcconnell: i mean I'd hate for her to do that to me. xnbomb: whats she doing isn't right ... she's using your moral quality against you xnbomb: the only alternative is for me to tell you what I saw there ... but apparently you don't trust me xnbomb: be pure and honest if you must, but know that you are a sheep amongst wolves xnbomb: she knows about you and your friend ... the evidence is in her metadex bethlmcconnell: it's not that i don't trust you bethlmcconnell: but i don't feel that it's right for me to know things gotten in such a manner xnbomb: and if she is reading your metadex ... its like you're fighting an able bodied opponent with one hand tied behind your back bethlmcconnell: She wouldn't read my metadex xnbomb: so be it. I'll write it again. She knows more about your friend than you think ... the evidence of this is in her metadex. The only way you can ever be sure of this is to see for yourself